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LainaaI'm interested in an AR 30. Does it come with a muzzle brake? At 12 pounds I would think a brake would be advisable. Has anyone shot one?



All of the AR-30 rifles in the .338 Lapua Magnum have the muzzle breaks, however it is optional on the AR-30's in .300 Winchester Magnum. The .308 caliber AR-30 rifles will not have the break.



I have shot the .338's and .300's, and they are both very comfortable to shoot, and very accurate.



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Thanks for the information! I am primarily interested in the 300, for use in 1000 yard competition. That would mean shooting between 60 and 80 rounds at a time (hence the question about the brake). Any other advice you can offer?



I would recommend the AR-300 in .300 Win with the break. It makes it much more comfortable to shoot, especially with the amount of rounds you are planning on shooting in your matches plus your pre-match practice time.



If you would like more information, please send me an email with your name and address. I have a copies of a couple magazine articles in which the AR-30 rifles were tested and reviewed. I can mail these out to you for some more detailed information to help in your decision.



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Get a break if you want to shoot it a lot, I want on is 338 laupa but we'll see, I hear the AR-30 is Armalite's worst selling rifle, but not for any reason other then cosmetics. I hear also it is a very accurate and good gun from the people who have them. B2B



Noooo, not worst selling! The reason there has been such a long delivery time is because there were so many orders placed when the rifles were introduced.



They can be hard to find at dealers and shows since the majority of orders placed by our dealers were special orders for particular customers.



Let me know if you're having trouble finding one, we can help you track one down. We have the backorders cleared up on the .338's and they are in stock ready for immediate shipment!



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Well hello again



Can you tell me about the trigger group? Is it adjustable? If so, what is the adjustment range? Is it match grade? Is it two stage?



Thanks again for all of your help and support.



The current trigger is a single stage, modified Remington 700 group. It is not user adjustable, they ship from the factory tuned to around 5 lbs.



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And by the way, the .308s don't come with the brake, but will accept it.



The brakes not only reduce recoil, but we think they help scrape away the high pressure gasses that the bullet has to transit. In other words, but bullet is exiting the brake into nice, clean, stable air instead of into a high pressure, turbulent zone.



We tested a Horus scope last week and got steady 1/2 minute groups out of that light AR-30 barrel.



Do you test them out side in the wind or in a tunnel? What kind of accuracy does the 338 produce? B2B



Currently we test fire the AR-30 rifles outdoors. I have a couple articles in which the AR-30 rifles were tested and reviewed, and there is a lot of detailed information regarding accuracy, etc. If you would like copies of these please email me your address at info@armalite.com and I will send them out to you. But they are shooting around 1 MOA or better.



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The AR 30 is accurate and looks like it has a fantastic muzzle brake. I was at Gunstock over this past weekend, and I got to watch Mark torch a few rounds with the AR 50 and AR 30 in .338 Lapua. Also on the firing line were several other .50's, so I got to compare the visual effect on the shooter's shoulder. The ArmaLite brake did as well as the State Arms brake; maybe better, but they both were far and away the most effective brakes, and least visible recoil. I was also able to watch the accuracy at 200 yds. in very light wind, and the AR 50 and AR 30 were at least tied with anything else out there for accuracy. Frankly, I can't remember anybody drilling the center as well as they did. A guy next to Mark was shooting an AR 50 left-handed action, and he was right down the middle, as was Mark, especially with the AR 30. Bottom line, for 1000 yds. get an AR 30 in .300 Win. Mag. and get the muzzle brake. If money and development time are not an issue (aren't they always?) get the AR 30 in .338 Lapua.



I have a AR-50 and the break works very very well it really does not kick. I was amazed... B2B



With the 30M in .338 Lapua the recoil is lighter than a 25-06 Sendero. It might be comparable to a 7.62x39 out of an AK or a .223 out of a Mini-14. You can shoot it all day long if you can afford the ammo. (the 30M comes with the muzzlebrake) A rumor was going around that a single shot will be offered but I don't know if that was accurate. (I load one round at a time anyways.)



Now, it's a different story if your right beside the shooter when one touches off. Accuracy is terrific, this might be traced back to the savage type of bolt, machined aluminum stock, the muzzlebrake, or the trigger. I do have one problem with the trigger/safety but I am thinking that it will cure itself, if it doesn't i'll make a phone call.



I was lucky enough to pick up an AR-30 in .338 at a local gun store in San Jose, Ca. (one of 2 that had been ordered over a year before) Due to the outrageous cost of ammo (90 bucks after tax for 20 rounds) I didn't test fire it until recently. Expecting insane recoil from this graceful 12 pound beauty, and possibly a horseshoe cut on my eye, I let buddy be the guinea pig. He squeezed off that first round, got up, and turned around like he'd seen a ghost.

I wasn't sure if I even wanted to pull that trigger until his face broke into a perma-smile. "You've GOTTA try this. You're not even gonna believe this thing" he said. So little hesitation, we switched places. I cranked the bolt, (which has since broken in) braced myself, and squeezed off a round. LIKE BUTTER! The folks at Armalite are GENIUSES. That muzzle brake tames the beastly .338 down to the equivalent recoil of a semi auto 12 guage shotgun.

To add some numerical perspective, I have a Remington 700 LTR rig with an Accuracy International Chassis system. It's a .308 cal that weighs in at around 16 pounds with optics. Even outweighing the Ar-30 by 4-5 pounds..... the AR kicks LESS than my 700. Truly amazing. My AR-30 is THE MOST FUN rifle I have EVER fired. The guys out there in Illinois, don't mess around.



John Bastiani



By the way my 338 and 300 win adjusted down to 2 LBs with no problems see good Rem gunsmith



Honest Charlie