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Avoin Keskustelu => Tarkka-ammunnasta yleisesti => Aiheen aloitti: laur - helmikuu 15, 2007, 10:07

Otsikko: Austrian made rifles in Iraq
Kirjoitti: laur - helmikuu 15, 2007, 10:07
Strafor has published following commentary.



Iraq: Ominous Signs of a Looming Sniper Threat

Feb 14, 2007



Summary



In a series of raids across Baghdad, U.S. and Iraqi forces seized more than 100 Austrian-manufactured sniper rifles in a 24-hour period Feb. 12-13. The .50-caliber weapons, which were legally exported to Iran in 2006, represent a grave danger to coalition troops.



Analysis



Over the course of the last six months, handfuls of heavy .50-caliber sniper rifles manufactured by the Austrian company Steyr-Mannlicher have been turning up in Iraq. But a series of joint U.S.-Iraqi raids Feb. 12-13 in Baghdad uncovered more than 100 Steyr "HS.50" rifles -- an unprecedented development that bodes ill for U.S. troops surging into the Iraqi capital.



In 2005, the National Iranian Police Organization placed an order for 800 Steyr HS.50s worth more than $15.5 million (nearly $20,000 per rifle). Ostensibly, the rifles were intended for use in interdicting drug smugglers. The U.S. and U.K. governments both protested the shipment in 2006, fearing the rifles would fall into the hands of Iraqi militias. A month and a half after the initial shipment, the first U.S. soldier was killed with one of these Steyr rifles.



A standard practice among Western weapons manufactures is to mark a rifle with its serial number in several locations -- not only the frame but also the bolt and barrel -- and this is the practice at Steyr-Mannlicher. Such marking is especially important for sniper rifles, which are machined to precise tolerances -- a professional would want to keep the bolt and the barrel with the original rifle. Grinding the serial numbers off would negatively affect the accuracy of the rifle.



The Steyr HS.50s found in Baghdad have been traced through Iran back to the 2005 Austrian deal with the National Iranian Police Organization, presumably by using discernable serial numbers on the weapons.



The .50-caliber round is powerful enough to punch through not only the Enhanced Small Arms Protective Inserts (E-SAPI) -- the armored plates worn by U.S. troops -- but also much of the light armor of U.S. vehicles. Iran also appears to have supplied armor-piercing incendiary rounds, which are even more destructive once they get inside the cramped compartments of vehicles. The armor-piercing incendiary rounds would also wreak havoc with a low-flying helicopter if it could actually be struck in-flight.



The Steyr HS.50 and other rifles of its kind are designed to engage targets at thousands of yards. Of course, a rifle is only as good as the marksmanship training of the person holding it. World-class snipers are the product of intensive training, something Iraqi insurgents noticeably lack (there are running jokes within U.S. military units about how terrible Iraqi marksmanship is). That said, a weapon like the Steyr HS.50 used to engage targets at 100 to 300 yards in a dense urban environment has a much larger margin of error and is devastating at such close ranges. Moreover, it is a single-shot, bolt-action rifle more accurate than the semi-automatic M82A3 Barrett .50-caliber sniper rifle used by U.S. forces. In the right hands, the HS.50 is capable of a minute of angle beyond 1,600 yards (a measurement amounting to phenomenal accuracy).



Insurgent snipers have been increasingly dangerous in the last two years. In 2003 and 2004, Iraqi sniper fire was inaccurate and sporadic. Since then, however, casualties from sniper fire have been creeping up, and turret gunners are now being taken down with head shots.



That more than 100 Steyr HS.50s were confiscated in a single 24-hour period in Baghdad suggests two things: First, that such a concentration was put in place in preparation for the building U.S. surge into the Iraqi capital and that the cache could represent the bulk of the rifles supplied to Iraqi Shia by supporters inside Iran. But if substantially larger portions of the original 800 rifles have slipped into the capital, it will be costly for both U.S. and Iraqi forces. The only question is: How many did Iran keep for itself?

The second point to consider is this: U.S. troops almost certainly acted on excellent intelligence, suggesting that if there are more large caches, they very well could be found.



Such a powerful weapon in the hands of a single, well-trained professional is trouble enough. But hundreds of these rifles supplied to a large swath of Shiite militias could exact a considerable toll on coalition forces moving into Shiite neighborhoods -- a toll the current level of force protection cannot prevent.
Otsikko:
Kirjoitti: MikaS - helmikuu 15, 2007, 10:21
Aamulehdessä oli eilen myös pieni juttu että Iranille :?: , tarkoitettuja steyerin tarkka ampujakivääreitä olisi löydetty Irakista.
Otsikko:
Kirjoitti: mika - helmikuu 15, 2007, 10:44
sen enempää ottamatta kantaa iran-irak-alueen politiikkaan niin kovasti vaikuttaa siltä, jotta jenkit kasaavat kovasti syitä miksi iraniin pitäs mennä.

Viime aikoina on myös ollut otsikoissa miten iranin puolelta tulee mm. pommien tekotarpeita.  

Saattaa olla, että ovat todellisia syitä,, saattaa olla propagandaa. Sodassa taitaa ensimmäinen uhri olla totuus. :cry:
Otsikko:
Kirjoitti: laur - helmikuu 15, 2007, 11:14
I'm just wondering how useful are those rifles in Iraqi tactical environment. In mostly urban environment insrurgents need more concealment which is not best side of .50 weapons. Where are the suppressors for AK's, SVD's?



Al Qaeda also got Barrets, but they were in mountainous terrain.



IRA got Barrets, but their success was very limited before their rifles were confiscated.



To deliver such weapons by sponsors to insurgents reminds me Soviet Union military help to Palestinians :)



Answer to mika. It would be very nice move by US to make EU ashamed about their weapons sale and make them partly responsible for problems in Iraq and Iran. If you are quilty, you have to fix this problem.
Otsikko:
Kirjoitti: mika - helmikuu 15, 2007, 11:39
Good point Laur. It might well be the case. For tactical use of these weapons I guess that insurgents are using what they have and what they can get.
Otsikko:
Kirjoitti: HJu - helmikuu 17, 2007, 17:17
Eiköhän RPG-7 singoista ja muutaman sadan kilon painoisista IED-pommeista ole USAn joukoille paljon enemmän riesaa kuin oikeastaan mistään kiväärikaliperin aseistuksesta Irakissa.



Kertalaukeava lippaaton .50 BMG -kivääri ei ole Irakissa terroristien ykkös- eikä edes kakkosase suosituimpien aseiden listoilla.
Otsikko:
Kirjoitti: laur - helmikuu 19, 2007, 15:43
Just to comment HJu statement.



//http://www.realcities.com/multimedia/nationalchannel/archive/mcw/pdf/Iran_in_Iraq.pdf